Conor Gadd: my career in 5 dishes

Patrick Dunne speaks to Conor Gadd, the chef behind Trullo and the new Covent Garden restaurant Burro, about five dishes that shaped his cooking, from anchovy toast to a tiramisu doughnut

Conor Gadd: My career in 5 dishes

A restaurant is like sailing from Cork to New York. Every now and then you’ve got to check the compass and make sure you’re not heading for Newfoundland,” Conor Gadd tells me at Burro.

It’s the latest restaurant from the chef who is best known as a key figure at Trullo, one of London’s most revered Italian restaurants. Gadd maintains a healthy scepticism of the way chefs and cooking are mythologised – his restaurants are ingredient-led without the tagline. “I hate the word ‘simplicity’ when people apply it to Italian food because it’s not simple. It requires knowledge to have restraint,” he says.

Trullo opened in 2010, the brainchild of owners Tim Siadatan and Jordan Frieda, with Gadd joining shortly after as head chef from Terroirs. “I read an interview with Tim and Jordan where they said the best meal they’d eaten that year had been at Terroirs, and that was my in to knock on their door.”

Growing up in Troubles-afflicted Belfast, Gadd’s entry into food was atypical of the era. “My mum worked in the political sphere, and I was raised by these two ladies, Kathleen and Betty, who were brilliant cooks. While lots of people were having microwave meals or Goodfella’s pizzas, they were cooking ham hock and barley soup, and breaded pork chops,” he says.

A few early stints in kitchens sold him on the lifestyle – particularly at Paul Rankin’s Roscoff. “What I loved was the mix of people. It was a really diverse group in the kitchen, all chasing a common goal. Kitchens are meritocracies. There’s no bullshit. And if there is, you’ll get found out astoundingly quickly.”

Gadd was trained in classical French cooking in his early days in kitchens and at Ballymaloe Cookery School, the fabled Cork institution founded by Darina Allen. But it was the – don’t say it – simplicity of Italian cooking that drew him in. “French chefs cook a carrot five ways to have it taste like a carrot again. Italians just cook the carrot.”

There is also the fact that, as he bluntly puts it, “Italian food is just class”. In the early days of Trullo, running a restaurant was a new experience for all three of them, but they kept each other in check. The River Café, with its £40-a-head set menu, was an inspiration.

‘The customer is always right’ is an imperfect cliché, but at the heart of Trullo was an acceptance that, ultimately, the restaurant was for the customers, not for the chefs. I ask how his cooking has changed over the years, and he surprises me by saying it’s got more conservative. “In the early days Tim and I would rebel against that, but as we got older, we realised the requirement was to cook for the customer,” he says.

Gadd took an ownership stake in Trullo in 2022, after which opening a second restaurant started to become a possibility. Trullo had reached a point where it had started to almost run itself. “We had a great general manager, a great head chef leading a great young team. I had the bandwidth to start looking outside.”

Burro is very much an extension of the Trullo brand; great food at an affordable price. But it is, technically, the first restaurant that is solely his. How does he define it? “What did my PR firm say?” he asks, half-jokingly. “Italian food, Irish hospitality. That all-encompassing hospitality you get at an Irish country house, where it’s not overly formalised, but there’s a genuine attitude of going above and beyond for the customer.” Just over four months after opening,

Burro has been a success, but opening a new restaurant comes with a different set of challenges to tackle. “The brand capital of Trullo means that customers instinctively trust it. They can look at a menu and think ‘maybe I will try the ox heart today’. We’re only a few months old; we’re probably better off just serving a carpaccio for now. Hopefully we’re still here in six or seven years, and we can branch out – or else I’ll say ‘carpaccio is paying the bills, let’s keep it on the menu’”.

I recognise and empathise with the borderline compulsive Irish refusal to believe your own hype, but as anyone who has eaten at Trullo before will agree, it will probably be doing both.

Anchovy butter toast

Terroirs

Anchovy butter toast

"Despite being a French-style restaurant, Terroirs was more Italian in its approach. This was before anchovies became a thing, and we did anchovies, butter, and shallots on toast, and I remember eating it for the first time, and it was almost like that moment in Ratatouille. It sounds cheesy, but the idea that you could put anchovies, butter, shallots, and toast on a plate, with no cooking, and customers would just come back for more and more and more... it was a real lightbulb moment. Sometimes you just have to let the ingredients do the work. About a decade ago we were in Rome with Rachel Roddy, and the first thing we ate was anchovies and butter on toast. Tim and I looked at each other and said, ‘It’s on’. We came back and put it on the menu in Trullo the next week"

Artichoke fritti with bottarga

Burro

Artichoke fritti with bottarga

"This dish was a bit of a fluke. I finished service one day, and I was hungry, so I fried some artichokes and grated bottarga over it, and was like, ‘Yeah, that works’. So I thought I would try to figure out a way to put it on the menu. At Burro, it was on the menu from day one, and then Giles Coren wrote his review and called it his dish of the year. At one point, we were going through 12 boxes of artichokes a day, and we thought, ‘this isn’t sustainable’. But it will come back on the menu whenever they come back into season. It was one of my first ‘signature dishes’; people were reacting to it, and it has gained a bit of a cult following."

Duck and porcini ragu

Burro

Duck and porcini ragu

“The hallmark sign of a good Italian restaurant is a good ragu. Obviously, Trullo had such an iconic ragu in the beef shin; I didn’t want to bring the same one to Burro, so I set about trying to create another version. So it was a process of playing around with pork, but it didn’t quite have the richness I felt I wanted in the dish. I tried lamb, and I tried slow-cooked duck leg, which I really liked, but wasn’t quite perfect, so I had the idea to try some minced duck. Then it was a case of ‘how do I get more depth into this dish? And the porcini came along. I kept refining it and ended up with this dish. What people don’t realise is, in a restaurant, it’s easy to cook a really good dish, but we’re cooking it for 250 people. So the skill is: does that recipe transfer? Is it scalable? This is perfect for that.”

Roast chicken

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Roast chicken

“I think that roast chicken is the perfect dish. A good roast chicken is impossible to beat, served old-fashioned style with roast potatoes, some greens, some gravy, and the job’s a good one. It’s a weekly staple in my house – I’ve got a wife and three kids who are all in love with it. For me, it’s just a really brilliant, accessible dish to cook that has always been a staple part of my culinary life. I grew up with them, and now I love cooking it; I’ve got the technique down, my butcher knows exactly what size bird to deliver to my house. I would never go to a restaurant for a roast, because I’m not a lunatic, but if I did, I would definitely order the chicken.”

Tiramisu doughnut

Burro

Tiramisu doughnut

“Pure clickbait, the tiramisu doughnut. When we were opening in Covent Garden, I knew we needed a dish for Instagram, something that would get hashtagged and shared widely. Everyone loves tiramisu, and after Trullo I didn’t want just to do another 100 portions of it every day, so we thought we’d have a bit of fun with it. We started with a big doughnut with coffee cream, and ended up with these. And it’s worked – I think we sell about 100 portions a day, and at least 80% of tables order it. Imagine Ed Sheeran writing a Christmas song, trying to get it to number one – he knows how to do that. And at the end of the day, it’s just really delicious.”